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Author name: L. Michael Hall, Bob G. Bodenhamer

 : Figuring Out People: Reading People Using Meta-Programs
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Type of bind: Paperback
Dewey Decimal Number: 616
EAN num: 9781899836109
ISBN number: 1899836101
Label: Crown House Publishing
Manufacturer: Crown House Publishing
Quantity: 1
Page Count: 291
Printing Date: December 01, 2006
Publishing house: Crown House Publishing
Sale Popularity Level: 372156
Studio: Crown House Publishing




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This book contains all you ever wanted to know about Meta-programs, the tools by which we can evaluate how people function! First it provides an in-depth explanation of the Meta-programming technique, and then furnishes fifty-one examples of Meta-programs. It thus provides clear insight into our own behaviour as well as that of other people, challenging us to understand how people operate and how to change our behaviour accordingly in order to communicate with them successfully. An essential addition to any NLP library.



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User popularity level:  out of 5 stars

Rated by buyers 2 out of 5 stars - Lost in the ozone
As a trainer of NLP, I understand Meta Programs pretty well. As a coach, I use Meta Programs on a daily basis. As a personal friend of Rodger Bailey, I know more about Meta Programs than most people because Rodger and I spent a lot of hours exploring this aspect of psychology. If you don't know Rodger's name, he is the person who published the original work on meta programs, working with Leslie Cameron Bandler.

Rodger has a brilliance for taking technical or complex information and making it very clear. That's a talent that Michael Hall does not have. Rodger is a communicator and teacher. Michael Hall is a researcher and data collector. Communicating is simply not Hall's strength. I've attempted to wade through several of his books, and they're all the same - great content if you can endure that much dry data.

I use this book as a reference, but it reads like a scientific dictionary. It's not written to be read from cover to cover. I appreciate the giant bite that Hall takes in cataloging so much data, but the book is more about simply capturing the data, than clearly explaining it.

For anyone interested in meta programs, I would look for Rodger Bailey's audio package. It is hands-down far easier to understand - certainly that's even more true for someone just starting to learn meta programs.

Michael Lovas



Rated by buyers 3 out of 5 stars - While not perfect...
...In a previous review in 2004, it's abundantly evident that "Egads" has no understanding of NLP... or is just hopelessly biased against NLP. Why do I say that? Because instead of reviewing the book, he uses the review opportunity to criticize NLP as a field. This book is CLEARLY not about VALIDATING NLP; it's about USING NLP (metaprograms, specifically). The book presupposes that the reader already has some understanding of NLP concepts. To validate the field of NLP would be redundant at this point. Critics of NLP who point out the dearth of unbiased, controlled experiments to validate NLP are ignoring the fact that unbiased, controlled experiments to validate ANY mind-related intervention--psychological, pharmacological, or otherwise, is sadly lacking. Let me repeat: the point of NLP books is not to validate NLP, but rather to help people improve their competence with NLP. And here's something else to consider for those who still want to argue that NLP is bunk: by virtue of being part of a controlled experiment, you change the essence of the intervention so that it becomes (in part) a spectator event. In the case of human intervention, how does one design a "controlled experiment" to overcome the effect of the experimenter on the experiment? This problem is inherent in any psychological test. If someone knows he is being tested, it affects his experience of the test. And those who administer the tests are affected by having their focus split between testing and applying an intervention. The classic example is the tester who tries to disprove eye accessing cues (EAC). While asking the questions that are supposed to elicit the EAC, the tester is so busy reading his test question that he misses the eye movement. BOOM. Test invalid. Yet, because what he does observe is not congruent, he assumes it is EAC that is invalid, rather than his experiment. D'OH! Finally, the reviewer concludes at the end of his review: "not all that deep." And I agree: HIS review is not all that deep. To review an NLP book, one must consider what the goal of THAT book is and rate it based on that goal. The goal of the book was not to prove NLP. In THIS book, the goal is to help readers understand metaprograms. Anyone who knows what a metaprogram is will be able to judge for himself or herself---and as with all of Hall and Bodenhamer's books, while the gleaning is a bit laborious, the knowledge to be gathered is wide and deep. Still, it should be pointed out that (ironically) H & B need help with their writing.



Rated by buyers 2 out of 5 stars - Egad... like reading a field manual for army truck repairs
Information, information everywhere and yet the boards did shrink... information everywhere and not a drop to drink.

As far as NLP literature goes, and that isn't saying much as NLP *qua* a socio-scientific discipline has never gotten much farther than a self sustaining cottage industry with tedious mediocrities and their tediously mediocre books which say the same boring things over and over again, redundantly, forever, ad infinitum, ad nauseum, ad eyerolleum, this is definitely one of the better catalogs of NLP distinctions of thought processing styles....or as they say with typical pomposity, Meta-Programs!.... as if the term "Meta" confers some special status to otherwise banal groupings of stylistic dichotomies...

A crucial, rather rude, and potentially enlightening question is...envelope please...where is the evidence that these assertions are true ? What controlled experiments were done to
validate this work ? At which universities ?

Regrettably, none appear to be cited or referenced. This material is presented as settled fact when it is conjecture... is this how people really think ? Do they KNOW what is going on in anyone's mind at a given moment ? Doubtful... And ,then, how closely do these distinctions conform to the actualities of mental functioning ? We should take the author's word for it ?

OK... how did he test these models ? What was his methodology for determining these categories of thought. Can we rely on his questionable theory of how different cultures represent time ? How does HE know how cultures influence the representation of time ? And on, and on, and on....

Not all that deep.



Rated by buyers 5 out of 5 stars - One of the best yet!
This has to be the most useful and comprehensive portrait of character and personality ever written. Hall paints many aspects of character and personality in a well-formatted and easy-to-read/easy-to-use manner. Despite such a complex topic as humanity, this book shows you the ways in which individuals are really different from each other, and how we are not so different after-all.

Hall takes you from the lofty thoughts of thinking out your identity down to the nitty-gritty of emotions, thoughts, awareness and feelings. If you're looking for a complete guide to interpersonal or social skills, and better yet self-knowledge and development, this is the book for you.

The typical 'typology' approach (Keirsey-Bates, Enneagram, etc.) doesn't do justice to individuals who don't 'fit' into any one distinct category. Hall bypasses this mistake in grouping by giving us the ways in which people can differ from each other, how to think like them, and how to communicate with them! With this book you can look at yourself and others as unique individuals while building understanding and cooperation.

I've read many of Hall's books and favor this over all the rest.



Rated by buyers 4 out of 5 stars - Very Interesting look at Meta Programs
I`m not sure if the ideas contained in this book occur elsewhere but they are well presented here. Not an easy book but very impressive. It will take some time to incorparate all the information contained within into your daily relationships so beware. Otherwise a super book.



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